tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post1544983046656729111..comments2024-03-24T11:03:03.106-07:00Comments on Just Genesis : First Verifiably Historical Persons in GenesisAlice C. Linsleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-59509844711384843922007-10-09T12:56:00.000-07:002007-10-09T12:56:00.000-07:00Welcome to Just Genesis, Randy! All humans are cr...Welcome to Just Genesis, Randy! All humans are created in the "image and likeness" of God. Cain and his brother Seth married daughters of the Chief of Nok (Hebrew is "Enoch"). Nok is the oldest site of metal working in Africa, located on the Jos Plateau of modern Nigeria. I've written a good deal on this question. Please read the essay here on "Is the Land of Nod the Land of Nok?" The comments are helpful also. Then scroll up to the short piece "Where am I Going with This blog?" You will find further explanation there and the comments are terrific!<BR/><BR/>Best wishes!Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-73509068944946104672007-10-09T08:32:00.000-07:002007-10-09T08:32:00.000-07:00This is more of a question than a statement... I h...This is more of a question than a statement...<BR/> I have always been curious about the land of NOD, if Adam and Eve were the first man and woman that GOD created-who were the people in the land of NOD created by?<BR/>Were they not created in the image of God-the reasom that GENESIS doesn't explore their creation or beginnings.<BR/> I would like to hear your thoughts on this subject??<BR/> THANKS--Randy BeardRandy Beardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03232548015027058960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-36778349126009547562007-04-16T08:32:00.000-07:002007-04-16T08:32:00.000-07:00Linda, great comments! Thank you so much. Africans...Linda, great comments! Thank you so much. <BR/><BR/>Africans do believe that God created ex nihilo. Also, the Tigris and Euphrates are exactly what the Bible says. There are two flood accounts in Genesis. One pertains to the Mesopotamian strata which represents the eastern cultural milieu of the Paleo-Dominion. The other pertains to the African Noah which represents the western. All the peoples of Genesis 10 are in the Afro-Asiatic language family, and these peoples extended from modern Nigeria to the Indus River Valley.<BR/><BR/>Adam and Eve are archetypes of all humanity. Their story perfectly describes our sinful, rebellious and fearful condition. That they chose from the Tree of knowledge ratehr than from the Tree of Life tells the whole story. The Church Fathers taught that the Tree of Life is the Cross and all humanity tries to avoid that Tree, yet it is our only way to Life.Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-46805168927620604732007-04-16T06:58:00.000-07:002007-04-16T06:58:00.000-07:00Hmm. An important difference in the creation stor...Hmm. An important difference in the creation stories is that of the Christian belief that God created everything from nothing. Only Genesis relays this idea. Also, if Adam and Eve are archetypes and not persons, what is your understanding of the fall and original sin? How did we get from "very good" to sinful down to our toenails? Also, how do you view the river names in Genesis - Pishon, Gihon and Tigris - do these correspond to an area in Africa? Are they not to be regarded as historical? Is the modern Tigris in the middle east named for the one in Edon? It may be that Adam and Eve and their story are symbolic but I remain undecided. You have clearly been working on this for some time and your posts are very thought provoking. Good work!Linda Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01159338786544001509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-86698587804089657762007-03-27T19:06:00.000-07:002007-03-27T19:06:00.000-07:00Jeannee, feel free to contact me at this address: ...Jeannee, feel free to contact me at this address: aproeditor@windstream.net<BR/><BR/>Did you know my cousin Janet Wilcox? She was in that Diocese until she died in 2003, after a full and rewarding life. I'm glad she didn't live to see the tragic events that have developed in her beloved Episcopal Church!Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-2086785612752704172007-03-27T18:20:00.000-07:002007-03-27T18:20:00.000-07:00Thank you so much for this blog. I am looking for...Thank you so much for this blog. I am looking forward to learning much more and I find this very interesting. <BR/><BR/>For some time I have felt moved to communicate with you regarding some spiritual guidance you might be able to share with me. I look for your meditations and comments on various blogs and have always come away blessed. I am from the Diocese of San Joaquin and am hoping you can email me. Blessings.Jeanneehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03258398208294603607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-5399449786097196252007-03-25T11:53:00.000-07:002007-03-25T11:53:00.000-07:00Thank you, honored guest, Canon Tunde, Communicati...Thank you, honored guest, Canon Tunde, Communications Officer for the Church of Nigeria. Please let me know what you discover in your research. I hope for considerable input from West Africans at this site. This is an area of research that must involve collaboration.Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-38107536978974878642007-03-25T08:24:00.000-07:002007-03-25T08:24:00.000-07:00Whao!That is a whole lot of research. I can identi...Whao!<BR/><BR/>That is a whole lot of research. I can identify with the Ile-Ife story as I schooled there for 5 years. It is near impossible to convince an elderly Ife person that the world did not start there.<BR/><BR/>Well aware of the Nok civilisation, this is the first time I am seeing a correlation with Enoch, Kano with Kain etc. truly amazing. must find time to do some research in these.<BR/><BR/>Well done Alice<BR/>'TundeNigerianAnglicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08415131644238987708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-43832373691374250832007-03-24T10:43:00.000-07:002007-03-24T10:43:00.000-07:00Africa has flood stories, for sure. There have bee...Africa has flood stories, for sure. There have been numerous floods at the confluences of the great rivers such as the Benue and the Niger. Also flooding around Lake Chad. At one point that area of Africa was so wet that the ground was springy. We will address this when we explore the textual evidence touching on the Afro-Asiatic chief Noah.<BR/><BR/>Thanks, Les, for the plug. I look forward to hearing from your readers and I will visit your blog.Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-67563023274117702562007-03-24T09:41:00.000-07:002007-03-24T09:41:00.000-07:00Does Africa have flood stories? My apologies if I ...Does Africa have flood stories? My apologies if I am jumping the gun on future posts.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07964356667706606547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-83028367646794470922007-03-23T12:28:00.000-07:002007-03-23T12:28:00.000-07:00One of the best books on this subject is "The Sons...One of the best books on this subject is "The Sons of the Gods and The Daughters of Men: An Afro-Asiatic Interpretaton of Genesis 1-11" by Modupe Oduyoye. Maryknoll, NY 1984 I'm afraid it didn't get a wide reading when it first appeared. Oduyoye is a Nigerian philologist who noticed the correspondence between the names of people and places in Genesis 1-11 and the names of people and places in West Africa.Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-83493087626702004362007-03-23T10:41:00.000-07:002007-03-23T10:41:00.000-07:00Interesting comments on African orgins. Do you ha...Interesting comments on African orgins. Do you haave any bibliography or books you might cite?nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05566528755687584455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-83691483083671715422007-03-23T06:45:00.000-07:002007-03-23T06:45:00.000-07:00It is so wonderful to see your reasearch beginning...It is so wonderful to see your reasearch beginning to be laid out on this blog. I look forward to reading more and learning more.Bronwenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00221439880535435909noreply@blogger.com