tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post3629561323947947052..comments2024-03-06T11:28:56.480-07:00Comments on Just Genesis : Luther Was Wrong About the PriesthoodAlice C. Linsleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-70063053787948908932012-12-24T00:38:45.579-08:002012-12-24T00:38:45.579-08:00Yes, Fr. Chris, there are parallels. But this unde...Yes, Fr. Chris, there are parallels. But this understanding necessarily reflects the historical reality of priestly family lines which included women, none of whom were ever priests or Levites. Christian baptism, in this sense, parallels circumcision. Though the circumcision of women isn't mentioned in the Bible, we know that females were also circumcised. Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-42802729097441511372012-12-23T19:46:52.820-08:002012-12-23T19:46:52.820-08:00Could it be generalized in that - by virtue of our...Could it be generalized in that - by virtue of our baptism into Christ - we are now incorporated into Abraham's faith and family (the commonwealth of Israel, as is stated in Eph. 2)? In that sense, St Peter could address us all as priests since we are now in the priestly family, though only some of us actually function as priests. The same was true of Levites - they were all "priests" but yet only some actually offered incense or sacrificed animals. And of that select group, only one family was allowed to serve as high priests.<br /><br />Or am I looking in the wrong place for parallels?Chris Larimerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01770607122746467750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-41299550804934026882012-12-23T08:35:10.929-08:002012-12-23T08:35:10.929-08:00ofgrace,
My concern is that the historicity of th...ofgrace,<br /><br />My concern is that the historicity of the priesthood as a unique and sacred caste not be lost in a theologically vague assertion that all baptized are priests. This is not what the Bible teaches, nor is it what St. John Chrysostom intended when he spoke of the priesthood as a divine ordinance.<br /><br />The baptized "in Christ" receive His priestly virtues and royal prerogatives. We are made joint heirs with Him of the Kingdom of God. Joint heirs is a legal term that means we share all things in common with Christ. How awesome!<br /><br />The 24 Elders (Rev. 19:4) likely do represent the whole community of the redeemed, both those who lived in expectation of the Seed before the Incarnation and those who believe in the Son of God after his appearing in the flesh. This is suggested by the number 24 or 2 groups of 12. John's number departs from Jewish and Quranic tradition in which there are 70 or 72 Elders. In the Quran they are called "Houris" and the Arabic word means "beings of distinction" or deified rulers.<br /><br />Horite ruler-priests were regarded as deified “sons” of God. They are often called “gods” (elohiym), as in Exodus 22:28: “Thou shalt not revile the gods (elohiym), nor curse the ruler of thy people.” <br /><br />It may be that these elders are our spiritual Horim (Forefathers). The English word for Horim is Horites. St. Paul explains that those who are not of Abraham's blood have been grafted into Abraham's Horite line through Jesus Christ.<br /><br />The Nilotic context of Revelation is evident in the use of the papyrus reed to measure (Rev. 21:15). These reeds grew with great uniformity, the segments being the exact distance apart. The golden reed was a symbol of the ruler's authority. The crook and flail of the Kushite and Egyptian rulers were segmented like Nile reeds and represented their authority to determine weights and measurements. They alone had the authority to determine boundaries (horimos).<br /><br />Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-64557450323846856742012-12-21T13:42:46.441-08:002012-12-21T13:42:46.441-08:00Savvy,
As a Roman Catholic you don't believe ...Savvy,<br /><br />As a Roman Catholic you don't believe in the universal priesthood. If you did, you wouldn't be Roman Catholic.<br /><br />We are baptized into Christ.Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-7381266088958236782012-12-21T12:43:45.504-08:002012-12-21T12:43:45.504-08:00Thanks, Alice.Thanks, Alice.Steve Lewishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02582792183339096661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-59232687747364313222012-12-20T17:09:59.762-08:002012-12-20T17:09:59.762-08:00Thanks Alice.
SavvyThanks Alice.<br /><br /><br /><br />SavvyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-65475820619190160982012-12-20T14:11:07.811-08:002012-12-20T14:11:07.811-08:00Savvy,
Fr. Hopko is providing a critique of Profe...Savvy,<br /><br />Fr. Hopko is providing a critique of Professor Jewett's argument that to express Christ's full humanity there must be both male and female ministers. Fr. Hopko inssits that Orthodoxy rejects Jewett's vision of God.<br /><br />On page 240, Fr. Hopko writes, "In his actions in and toward the world of his creation, the one God and Father reveals himself primarily and essentially in a 'masculine' way.<br /><br />Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-53253472353250287692012-12-20T13:27:22.969-08:002012-12-20T13:27:22.969-08:00Alice,
It's pgs- 237-239.
SavvyAlice,<br /><br />It's pgs- 237-239.<br /><br /><br />SavvyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-15563408053231510592012-12-20T13:09:25.404-08:002012-12-20T13:09:25.404-08:00I have the book, Savvy. Fr. Hopko is the Editor. T...I have the book, Savvy. Fr. Hopko is the Editor. Three if the chapters are his work. Please direct me to the page where he makes this claim. I'd like to read the section before responding.<br /><br />Orthodoxy stresses the two natures of Jesus Christ, and maintains that the Priesthood is not open to women or even all men.Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.com