tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post7842041361179430767..comments2024-03-24T11:03:03.106-07:00Comments on Just Genesis : What Color Was Abraham?Alice C. Linsleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-18921758695712424712023-08-10T09:56:23.472-07:002023-08-10T09:56:23.472-07:00Anthropologists study physical appearances because...Anthropologists study physical appearances because these are evidence of genetic inheritance. Jesus was a descendant of people with a reddish skin tone: Esau and David. We note cranial shapes. For example, "Brachycephalic" refers to broad-headed skulls, as contrasted with round "mesocephalic", and elongated "dolichocephalic" skulls. We note features such as Mandibular prognathism: an unusually prominent or protruding chin. "The protruding chin is one of the evolutionary features which separate Homo sapiens from our ancestors. A protruding chin was absent in archaic humans and Neanderthals." (Emes, Aybar and Yalcin, 2011 Report of the Evolution of Human Jaws and Teeth, Bulletin of the International Association of Paleodontology, p. 40). We note types of hair. The vast majority of hair samples discovered at the Predynastic cemetery site HK43 at Nekhen on the Nile were cynotrichous (Caucasian) as opposed to heliotrichous (Negroid), according to The Nekhen News (p. 7). Samples ranged from a single hair to a complete headful, with the largest number originating from the disturbed Burial no. 16 of a female of around 35+ years of age. Nekhen is the oldest known site of Horite Hebrew worship.<br /><br />http://www.hierakonpolis-online.org/nekhennews/nn-10-1998.pdf<br />Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-82918580867208657472022-10-27T22:34:00.766-07:002022-10-27T22:34:00.766-07:00I just discovered your blog! Really thought-provok...I just discovered your blog! Really thought-provoking, please keep up the good work, be blessed!digicashceohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13538757388311758312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-61010528736561106812022-10-07T21:31:47.188-07:002022-10-07T21:31:47.188-07:00It's not irrelevant because so many brown peop...It's not irrelevant because so many brown people does not even know where they come from we was taught that the white man was her first through their teachings through that TV shows through their false preachers now that we are knowing better let's keep teaching the truthAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-29280326153611533442022-09-07T15:05:21.586-07:002022-09-07T15:05:21.586-07:00Y-DNA haplogroup R (long before Abraham) emerged f...Y-DNA haplogroup R (long before Abraham) emerged from an African parent group. Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-71650459634291894842022-09-07T14:18:15.902-07:002022-09-07T14:18:15.902-07:00Current evidence has R1b in present-day Africa com...Current evidence has R1b in present-day Africa coming from the Eurasian steppe (how seems like an exciting mystery!), this makes Abraham an unlikely candidate for carrying the haplogroup, but much of the rest of your analysis is compelling. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-79399058706756184382021-01-02T06:26:02.198-07:002021-01-02T06:26:02.198-07:00It is silly to say that talk about skin color is d...It is silly to say that talk about skin color is divisiveness unless you right now are a superior race. This is why God is an artist just like we know that the colors red mixed with yellow creates orange. Don't you know that God knew before us. He saw our variation of color to be beautiful and celebrated. How do you celebrate if you want to dismiss. Race and racism are totally two different things. If we humans embrace (not necessarily agree with) every culture and see the beauty in each color then we stand equal without fear. When we down race then we are suppressing our uniqueness and therefore you have a superior race. Why not talk about race? That's the problem we haven't and it had ended badly. We have only been taught superiority.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-31564979582969871992018-12-19T22:44:04.560-07:002018-12-19T22:44:04.560-07:00I m so glad to visit this blog.This blog is really...I m so glad to visit this blog.This blog is really so amazing.<br />Martinhttps://www.clippingsolutions.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-51353980118435856812018-02-03T09:21:24.601-07:002018-02-03T09:21:24.601-07:00Manna,
Genesis 11:1 speaks of one language with t...Manna,<br /><br />Genesis 11:1 speaks of one language with the same words/roots. All the peoples in the so-called "Table of Nations" are Afro-Asiatics and their archaic languages shared the same roots. The Afro-Asiatic language group is recognized by linguists as the oldest group. <br /><br />I'm not a Bible literalist. I'm a biblical anthropologist who delves deeply into the biblical text. I do not proof text. Those who believe that "the various people groups (with their various languages, cultures, and distinctive physical characteristics, including skin color) arose as a result of God's supernatural judgment at the Tower of Babel" promote racism. If you hold that view, please go away.<br />Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-60768020112664085232018-01-22T21:31:59.786-07:002018-01-22T21:31:59.786-07:00"January 16, 2012 at 9:37 AM
Alice C. Linsle..."January 16, 2012 at 9:37 AM<br /> Alice C. Linsley said...<br />The Tower of Babel story speaks of real historical developments. Apparently, the linguistic divergence to which the story alludes began at least five generations before Abraham."<br /><br />Hi Alice, <br />Could you clarify how how the linquistic variation occurred before Babel? Thanks. Mannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15329676748565847421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-89546286586644651172017-10-21T14:37:52.696-07:002017-10-21T14:37:52.696-07:00IsaacBG, if this sort of thing interests you, you ...IsaacBG, if this sort of thing interests you, you should consider joining he international Facebook forum The Bible and Anthropology. There we discuss many matters pertaining to the Bible in greater depth.<br /><br />Thank you for your kind words of appreciation.Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-7101884261311759152017-09-19T15:58:22.945-07:002017-09-19T15:58:22.945-07:00Hi, great article.
I myself have always been curi...Hi, great article.<br /><br />I myself have always been curious about ancient history and how the biblical narrative of genesis must be understood. We need this kind of teaching in our churches and sunday school in order to understand better the people who wrote genesis and their purpose when they where writing the text. Congrats and my best regards because you take the time to publish this information and make it available to all of us. I jus saw a movie in Netflix about the Exodus and new evidences from a place called Avira and how wrong where many historians in dating the exodus 1200BCE and that event according to eviden took place much earlier in the middle kingdom and there is where the new positive evidence for the exodus is coming out. Regards and sorry for the typos and other errors.<br /> IsaacBGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17491995985508944561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-19684887946103509032016-08-25T07:07:55.371-07:002016-08-25T07:07:55.371-07:00Thank you for this insightful comment, Harry. In ...<br />Thank you for this insightful comment, Harry. In reality, as is shown by molecular genetics, the very concept of "race" is a false one. There are genetic types and ranges of physical appearance associated with the various types or haplogroups. That said, all living humans have African ancestry. <br /><br />Here are some related articles that might be of interest:<br /><br />http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2015/03/seligmans-legacy.html<br /><br />http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2012/06/about-race-human-populations-and.html<br /><br />http://biblicalanthropology.blogspot.com/2012/03/bible-and-question-of-race.html<br /><br />Best wishes,<br /><br />Alice<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-59311669858301961672016-08-21T12:03:13.203-07:002016-08-21T12:03:13.203-07:00Alice,
It is sometime since my emailing you & ...Alice,<br />It is sometime since my emailing you & my first time doing so publicly.<br />You will recall my not having much time for religion of any kind but your article on the colour of Abraham was of great interest to me and leads me on to the following.<br />It is my understanding that a recent television titled "The Bible" has been aired in the US. Whether or not there has been a UK broadcast of "The Bible" is unknown but then yours truly does not watch the box very much.<br />Coming to the point, I gather this series cast Samson as a very black man and has prompted much discussion as to whether this was actually so. Taking together your material re. the Natufian plus that of Abraham and coupling it with Amos (Hebrews as Ethiopians/Kushites), Tacitus (Jews as Ethiopians), Paul (a Jew as Egyptian), etc, it seems to me certain comments can be made.<br />One is that if Jesus were alive in the 20th c., there would be little doubt he would have fallen foul of the segregationalist laws of the US Deep South and the equally seperatist laws of Apartheid-era South Africa on dark skin colour.<br />Another comment is that from the remarks by messrs. Garrod plus Keith re. the Natufian skeletons to those of the other cited writers re. the Africoid nature of the Israelites/Hebrews/Jews brings me back to Samson.<br />Samson has much in common with Hercules. Equally to the point it seems the muscleman/giant image, the seven strands of braided hair dark/very dark (?) skin is shared Great Head No. 2 at the Olmec Culture site of Tres Zapotes (Mex.)<br />Regards,<br />Harry <br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-84087266558472992582016-07-03T08:35:52.057-07:002016-07-03T08:35:52.057-07:00Alice,
Thank you for your research on this subject...Alice,<br />Thank you for your research on this subject matter. For a long time, people have wondered, argued and assumed certain positions on this subject and dare I say "Never did any research to back their position." I had speculations and thoughts, but I must admit, I didn't do research because I wasn't sure on where to start. <br />I am a Pastor in Ohio, i post videos on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Livestream and any other avenue I can find. I also post writings and thoughts on Facebook talking about Scriptures and encouraging people to come to Jesus. <br />With your permission, I'd like to use your information and name in one or many of my videos. You have opened my eyes to a greater understanding of the Biblical Characters (if I may use that terminology) and where my background began. My wife and I, just recently started searching for the truth of the "Identity" of the biblical characters. My Wife was the first to start because she has always said "She wanted to know who she was and Where did she come from?" I must give her much credit....because of her curiosity and searching out the truth, what she shared with me, inspired me to begin searching, now that I had a place to start. This morning I found what you wrote and I shared it with my Wife, and she has found interest in your work also.<br />What I will use from your work is....Your quotes and give a list of your Blogs. I DARE NOT TAKE ANY OF YOUR WORK OR WORDS OUT OF CONTEXT! For what you said has enlightened me, and I wish to introduce others to what you have researched.<br /><br />Thank you so much for your information! God Bless,<br />Pastor Deron Wilson <br />SHALOM SHALOM!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02271049374754280436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-74509789829348080682016-05-26T06:55:43.230-07:002016-05-26T06:55:43.230-07:00As a young child I visited an Igorot village in th...As a young child I visited an Igorot village in the mountains of Northern Luzon with my father. I have a photo graph of the chief standing next to my father. It is a wonderful photo and the chief is small in stature and my father was very tall. Both men are smiling.<br /><br />My father told me that the chief had become a Christian and then all the people of the village did also. <br /><br />The practice of head hunting and head shrinking was widespread. This ceremony was found in Asia, the South Pacific, the Americas, Southern Europe, in Africa, and among the Celts of Ireland.<br /><br />To answer your question, I give you the words of the Egyptian Bishop St. Athanasius of Alexandria (296-373 AD), who wrote in his treatise on the Incarnation of the Word of God:<br /><br />"But, as we have already seen, men, foolish as they are, thought little of the grace they had received, and turned away from God. They defiled their own soul so completely that they not only lost their apprehension of God, but invented for themselves other gods of various kinds. They fashioned idols for themselves in place of the truth and reverenced things that are not, rather than God Who is, as St. Paul says, "worshipping the creature rather than the Creator." Moreover, and much worse, they transferred the honor which is due to God to material objects such as wood and stone, and also to man; and further even than that they went, as we said in our former book. Indeed, so impious were they that they worshipped evil spirits as gods in satisfaction of their lusts. They sacrificed brute beasts and immolated men, as the just due of these deities, thereby bringing themselves more and more under their insane control. Magic arts also were taught among them, oracles in sundry places led men astray, and the cause of everything in human life was traced to the stars as though nothing existed but that which could be seen. In a word, impiety and lawlessness were everywhere, and neither God nor His Word was known. Yet He had not hidden Himself from the sight of men nor given the knowledge of Himself in one way only; but rather He had unfolded it in many forms and by many ways."<br />Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-69237660255918002622016-05-18T00:12:02.025-07:002016-05-18T00:12:02.025-07:00I appreciate how you have given a very effective p...I appreciate how you have given a very effective proof of genealogy to Mr.Bulang. in this regard, may i also know what may be the trace of the Igorot People where i belong? The Igorot's ancient history were of zero written articles, but we the younger generation had only heard from our dead olds that they had been engaged in human head sacrifices so that heaven would bestow them good harvest, safe hunting activities and protection of their villages from foreign attackers. They were also engaged in witchcraft and divination. They have god called Cabunyan whom they offered the human heads in high places called Dap-ay. My question is, if that Cabunyan is heavenly, why did it needed a human head which to us is killing activity?<br />I have been searching who were ancient headhunters in World History but not satisfied because the thing i want to know is if there is a connectivity to Abraham's because most of Igorots now are Christians. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03482626054694169783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-49217764163307870282016-04-20T05:19:44.978-07:002016-04-20T05:19:44.978-07:00There is no evidence for Noah being "albino&q...There is no evidence for Noah being "albino" in any credible sources. There are no ancient Egyptian paintings of Joseph, the son of Jacob.<br /><br />The founders of the ancient Nile civilization were not Egyptians. It was the Kushite rulers who first united the Upper and Lower Nile. Their religion was that of their Proto-Saharan ancestors who built the shrine city of Nekhen (BC 4000-3500). Nekhen was a Horite shrine, that is, it was dedicated to Horus whose animal totem was the falcon.Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-4072324420733858712015-12-15T05:39:39.586-07:002015-12-15T05:39:39.586-07:00Timothy, as you read material at my blogs, please ...Timothy, as you read material at my blogs, please keep in mind that my research continues daily and I may change my mind about something, depending on the data.<br /><br />The Ainu originated in the Nile Valley and dispersed widely. There were Ainu/Anu among Abraham's Habiru ancestors. Biblical On (Heliopolis) was once an Ainu shrine city. Archaic humans were already dispersed globally before the time of Noah.<br /><br />As for the question of race. anthropologists largely have dismissed this concept as it does not align with the data of molecular genetics. I recommend these two articles:<br /><br />http://biblicalanthropology.blogspot.com/2012/03/bible-and-question-of-race.html<br /><br />http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2015/03/seligmans-legacy.html<br /><br /><br />Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-52020444336742899412015-12-11T22:32:18.938-07:002015-12-11T22:32:18.938-07:00This is incredibly fascinating, Alice!
I've a...This is incredibly fascinating, Alice!<br /><br />I've always felt something was "off" when you see Abraham, Isaac, David, Jesus etcetera., all being painted as very white men. It's nothing against that of course (I'm white). I just don't think it's very accurate ... it seems more likely that they were darker skinned, living in the Middle East.<br /><br />I've heard of the term Edo for Ancient Japan. But I've never made the connection between Edo and Edom. In another one of your articles you said something about Abraham (or maybe Abraham's tribe) travelling to Northern Japan. I'm not an anthropologist, but don't you think that's a little out of the way from Judea?<br /><br />-TimAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11140933702909323100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-51161149652737437672015-11-05T08:32:17.608-07:002015-11-05T08:32:17.608-07:00No books yet. Finding a publisher is a daunting ta...No books yet. Finding a publisher is a daunting task! You will find all the research online at two blogs: Just Genesis and Biblical Anthropology. Here are the indices:<br /><br />http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2014/04/index-of-topics-at-just-genesis.html<br /><br />http://biblicalanthropology.blogspot.com/2011/02/index-of-topics-at-biblical.htmlAlice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-86896674415411557362015-11-03T18:47:16.501-07:002015-11-03T18:47:16.501-07:00Rose
Alice, this is so fascinating to me and I wi...Rose<br /><br />Alice, this is so fascinating to me and I wish to learn more. Have you written any books? What books can you recommend? thanksAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04190978942773131958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-12340579237275110332015-10-24T09:08:26.346-07:002015-10-24T09:08:26.346-07:00Nawej, You are correct in your observation of the ...Nawej, You are correct in your observation of the close affinity of Hebrew words to African words. Hebrew is actually an African language, though most Jews would attempt to deny that. See these articles:<br /><br />http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2012/06/recovering-african-background-of.html<br /><br />http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2013/01/is-hebrew-african-language.html<br /><br />Humans originated in Africa and dispersed from there. The greatest linguistic diversity is still found in Africa. As peoples dispersed the number of phonemes actually decreased. See this study: <br /><br />http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2013/03/phoneme-study-pinpoints-origin-of.html<br /><br />Abraham's cattle-herding ancestors came from the Nile Valley. Many peoples dispersed from there. Some went in Arabia and Syria, Southern Europe and some moved deeper into central Africa toward the great paleolakes that existed there during the African Humid Period (Late Holocence).<br /><br />The priesthood, male and female circumcision, animal sacrifice, concern for ritual purity, the idea of deified rulers, expectation of an immortal Righteous Ruler... all these originated among Abraham's Proto-Saharan ancestors.<br />Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-34550694801274499272015-10-11T15:48:06.708-07:002015-10-11T15:48:06.708-07:00Hello Alice,
Would you have answers to my queries?...Hello Alice,<br />Would you have answers to my queries? Why are they so many lexical commonalities between Congo languages and the Hebrew language? Is it a mere coincidence, consanguinity or neighbourhood influences? Here are few examples to give you clues.<br />The verb to marry in lingala (and kikongo) is exactly the same as in Hebrew: bala and baal, respectively. <br />Kushite : in Ruund (Lunda) the words: mushit, shit (mashit) and kashit, just to name the three. They all relate to burning. The first, mushit, denotes a black hash resulting from the burning of grassland. The second, shit (pl. mashit), denotes a huge fire pit. It is often encountered during farming. The farmer assembles leftover branches in several groupings around the garden to burn them as they were not burned during the burning day. The third, kashit, is the diminutive of the second term (shit) meaning a small fire pit. Ruund people are known to have had ties with the ancient Egyptian, moreover Ruund and Kuba of the Democratic Republic of Congo bear biblical stories of the Tower of Babel and the drunkenness of Noah. Nkoond (nkuund) mean agriculturer, farmer or cultivator. We have Levite practices: marriage rituals, dietary code-forbidden animals, funeral code (chiefs do not attend burial and do not see dead bodies), royal musicians rotate on a weekly basis (ref. King David), the mention of chandelier of 7 lamps, one year royal investiture tour composed of steps similar to exodus (scattering called kamwangeen) the camp of flowing water where people ate quails and white paste some of them died for not obeying, the camp of metal bull, etc.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11472279047372476083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-74140069289481883622015-09-20T13:36:24.936-07:002015-09-20T13:36:24.936-07:00Sam,
DNA studies indicate that the ancestors of t...Sam,<br /><br />DNA studies indicate that the ancestors of the Chinese originated in Africa.<br /><br />See these articles:<br /><br />http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2013/05/more-east-africa-asia-connections.html<br /><br />http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2012/05/nile-japan-ainu-connection.html<br /><br />http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2013/03/phoneme-study-pinpoints-origin-of.html<br /><br /><br />Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-83659791614892217712015-09-18T09:02:38.607-07:002015-09-18T09:02:38.607-07:00I find your writing intellectually stimulating.
D...I find your writing intellectually stimulating.<br /><br />Do you have any thoughts on the possibility that Abraham and his family originated in what is now China? After all, the Bible refers to him as Avraham Ha'Ivri (Abraham from the East). Or alternatively, do you think it possible that Abraham's children (not Isaac) spread to China, as the Bible states that he sent them to the East.<br /><br />SamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com