tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post8578074594068580104..comments2024-03-24T11:03:03.106-07:00Comments on Just Genesis : Isaac's Three SonsAlice C. Linsleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-39754916644899662552022-11-07T20:52:43.755-07:002022-11-07T20:52:43.755-07:00Rhona, you are asking good questions.
I recommend...Rhona, you are asking good questions.<br /><br />I recommend reading this short piece:<br /><br />https://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2022/02/the-hebrew-hierarchy-of-sons.html<br /><br />Best wishes,<br /><br />AliceAlice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-87208041292448631542022-11-06T11:32:40.060-07:002022-11-06T11:32:40.060-07:00I found this because I was curious about how, when...I found this because I was curious about how, when Isaac and Esau discover Jacob's theft of the blessing, Isaac says to Esau, "I made him a master over you, and I gave him all his brothers as servants". Made me wonder if Isaac had other children, perhaps through concubines, who may not have rated as highly as Esau and Jacob did in the hierarchy of the culture of that place and time.Rhona Silverbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07963338860855163138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-54475327456118090172017-10-09T13:15:44.507-07:002017-10-09T13:15:44.507-07:00I'm having doubts about my thinking in this ar...I'm having doubts about my thinking in this article. I'm beginning to look in another direction for data concerning Isaac's first born son by his half-sister wife. This son was Isaac's proper heir and would have ruled over Edom when Isaac died. I'm beginning to think that his proper heir was Seir the Horite (Genesis 36).<br /><br />Abraham's son Isaac was likely much younger than Nahor's first born son Huz. This is the son of Milcah (Gen. 23:20-24). Huz had a brother named Buz. Huz/Buz and Uz ae a 3-clan Horite confederation. Nahor's other so was Kemuel. He is associated with the Horite city of Hebron in 1 Chronicles 26:30 and 1 Chronicles 27:17. Uz's daughter married Dishan and named her first born son Uz after her father. Uz the Younger is listed in Genesis 36 as a chief of the Horite clan of Seir, the ruler of Edom. This would make Seir the age that he would have been born to Isaac and his first wife, his half-sister.<br /><br />Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-60207486305109549732014-02-05T12:29:22.879-08:002014-02-05T12:29:22.879-08:00Very helpful. Thank you for answering. And thank y...Very helpful. Thank you for answering. And thank you for sharing so much of your research with us here online. I'm finding it fascinating to read and ponder. SusanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-63405018535881636322014-02-01T07:04:26.608-08:002014-02-01T07:04:26.608-08:00Hi, Susan. That is possible. Jacob had two cousin ...Hi, Susan. That is possible. Jacob had two cousin wives, but Jacob's marriage appears to have been irregular and he was not Isaac's proper heir. That was Esau. Esau or Yeshu was indeed a great Horite ruler whose marriage pattern corresponds exactly to the Horite ruler-priest pattern. This is Esau the Elder, a contemporary of Seir the Horite of Edom. See http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2010/02/two-named-esau.html<br /><br />There are two possibilities concerning Issac's first wife. Either she was a half-sister (daughter born of Keturah) or a patrilineal niece (born of the wife of one of his brothers). In the second case, Yitbak would be my educated guess. <br /><br />Cousin brides and niece brides were common among the Horites. Neither would have been regarded as irregular. There is some indication that both were classified as "cousins" which followed the practice of the Egyptians royalty.<br /><br />I now lean toward the view that Isaac's first wife was a half-sister, given Isaac's status as Abraham's proper heir. The pattern of first wife (half-sister) and second wife(patrilineal cousin/niece) appears to apply to Isaac. <br /><br />Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-40342846437069778662009-11-21T09:00:29.878-08:002009-11-21T09:00:29.878-08:00Yes, this is not proof of Isaac having 2 wives, bu...Yes, this is not proof of Isaac having 2 wives, but it is evidence that suggests he did.<br /><br />It focuses the question of why Isaac would NOT have 2 wives since it was the pattern of the ruling sons to do so. Maybe Isaac wasn't the ruling son? <br /><br />I tend to accept the biblical claim that Abraham made Isaac the ruler over his territory before he died. If true, this explains Abraham's urgency for Isaac to have a second bride, preliminary to his becoming the next chief. It also explains why Rebecca was brought to Beersheba instead of to Hebron.Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-79503625418433347372009-11-20T19:12:15.850-08:002009-11-20T19:12:15.850-08:00I just discovered this blog a few days ago, hence ...I just discovered this blog a few days ago, hence I did not see this post until today. Sorry to be commenting on old material, but that's the reason.<br /><br />Anyway, I'm afraid the argument in favor of Isaac having a second wife does not strike me as convincing, or even a valid argument. All that has been proven is that IF Isaac had a second wife, THEN she would have to have been of a certain ancestry and given her son a certain name. However, the original question, as to whether Isaac actually had another wife besides Rebecca, has not been established.<br /><br />I hope these comments prove helpful!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com