tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post5970069015539694331..comments2024-03-24T11:03:03.106-07:00Comments on Just Genesis : Abraham's Ancestral Faith Alice C. Linsleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-2671476805418392802017-09-25T03:38:32.533-07:002017-09-25T03:38:32.533-07:00The Deuteronomist represents a much later period a...The Deuteronomist represents a much later period and a Babylonian context. This final hand on the material comes about 1500 years after Abraham and attempts to adapt the narrative of Abraham to his purpose which is to consolidate a national identity with Jerusalem as its center. Thus it urges the elimination of all other shrines and temples. The result is contextual incongruities in Genesis. See this:<br /><br />http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2017/01/contextual-incongruities-in-genesis.html<br /><br />So-called "Egyptian religion" has many layers, depending on the period of development. At its earliest we have the foundation set in place by the Kushite rulers who were the first to unite the Upper and Lower Nile. The Re-Horus-Hathor narrative with the red or white cow imagery likely comes from the cattle-herding Kushites. Later, the religion of Hathor's spread into other areas and by the time of the Roman Empire, it changed into goddess worship of Isis. Now we have a different narrative that focuses on fertility rather than on the conception of the Son of God. Also there is a shift to multiple deities, largely a Greco-Roman influence with river spirits, tree spirits, etc. Even then there is a recognition of a celestial hierarchy with Zeus on Mt. Olympus as the head of the pantheon.<br /><br />Frank Moore Cross believes the origins of Israel's conception of God is to be found in the region of Midian in northwestern Arabia. Cross argues that archaic biblical poetry locates Yahweh's movements in Edom/Seir/Teman/Midian and that these "are our most reliable evidence for locating Sinai/Horeb, the mountain of God." Edom is Abraham's territory. It is also the territory of Seir the Horite whose clan is described in Genesis 36. See this:<br /><br />http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2011/10/frank-moore-cross-israels-god-is-god-of.html<br /><br />None of the Old Testament people were monotheistic, from an anthropological perspective. The biblical faith is better described as henothenism: the belief in a supreme Creator served by lesser divine powers like angels or spirits. These angelic or celestial beings were often portrayed as birds in Nilotic monuments and scripts. Henotheism is much closer to monotheism than to polytheism. <br /><br />I have worked on this research for 28 years. Others have written about the Horite Hebrew, but they came to different conclusions.<br /><br />Robert Wolfe wrote an article titled "From Habiru to Hebrews: The Roots of Jewish Tradition". It appeared in October 2009 in the New English Review and is available to read online. Wolfe observes, "At an earlier date, identifying the Hebrews with the habiru was common, but in recent decades, the association has been discouraged, largely because habiru is now understood to be a sociological term, not indicative of any one ethnic group." This is exactly where the confusion arises.<br /><br />Ha'biru does pertain to a social phenomena typical of the archaic world - the prevalence of a caste structure. To understand the Ha'biru/'Apiru/Ha'piru we must recognize two things:<br /><br />1. They were a ruler-priest caste. Castes practice endogamy, that is, they marry only within and between their clans. This caste was in the service of rulers who established the earliest kingdoms on earth. That is why we find the Hebrew so widely dispersed by 8,000 BC.<br /><br />2. The word Ha'piru (or Ha'biru) tell us they served in the Sun temples, the piru or biru. Ha or h' simply means "the" so that Ha'biru indicates the temple people. The later Levites are patterned on their Habiru ancestors.<br /><br />Also available is the much older work by the Rev. John Campbell (Toronto, Canada) "The Horites" and this also is available to read online.<br /><br />Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-58899999541618679342017-09-24T17:26:20.531-07:002017-09-24T17:26:20.531-07:00Alice,
Do you think that the Deuteronomists which ...Alice,<br />Do you think that the Deuteronomists which finished the Torah text were aware of all this?<br />You talk about the marriage of joseph and the daughter of the Heliopolis's priest, how do you think it was related with egyptian religion.<br />Because, frank moore talks about akhenathen revolution, which one were trying to reinstate the monotheism; so this mean that they weren't monotheist at joseph's time.<br />Do you know someone studing this horite caste in addition to you?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com