tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post6392999239674915291..comments2024-03-24T11:03:03.106-07:00Comments on Just Genesis : Moses's Wives and BrothersAlice C. Linsleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-76683546140363200252018-03-10T00:43:59.745-07:002018-03-10T00:43:59.745-07:00If Moses Married the Kushite before the Midianite ...If Moses Married the Kushite before the Midianite (Zipporah) then surely Pharaoh would have known of his heritage and who his enslaved family was? If Moses was indeed drawn from the water by Pharaoh's sister and raised by her, yes we know that his mother ended up nursing him so maybe???, but then he was driven out of Egypt and came to Midian before the Exodus. The first mention of the Ethiopian wife is long after the Exodus. Is it possible that Moses righted a wrong, and took a half-sister wife, AFTER his cousin-wife, which perhaps was the reason for his sister and brother's objection? Or do you believe Pharaoh knew of his heritage and allowed the marriage, but then why would his siblings object? Sinttu ja Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04531590282645090772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-16345814598223497312013-08-09T16:10:00.819-07:002013-08-09T16:10:00.819-07:00Why do you think there are 3 wives, Lisa? The Keni...Why do you think there are 3 wives, Lisa? The Kenite wife is Zipporah. Her father was Jethro the Kenite. She was Moses' cousin wife. Moses' half-sister wife would have been the Kushite wife, taken at a fairly young age while still living in Egypt. The Kushites were the first to unite the Upper and Lower Nile Valley and the earliest Egyptian dynasties were ethnically Kushite.<br />Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-25409779218909875292013-08-09T15:23:19.060-07:002013-08-09T15:23:19.060-07:00Isn't it true that Moses had a third wife? The...Isn't it true that Moses had a third wife? The Kenite wife is mentioned in Judges 1:16 and also Judges 4:11 where actually Moses' father-in-law is mentioned and this person doesn't fit his other two wives' fathers. Lisanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-25613520974006645242013-06-20T06:10:35.533-07:002013-06-20T06:10:35.533-07:00Striped Rose, Ishar is a woman's name, derived...Striped Rose, Ishar is a woman's name, derived from the Hebrew Isha, meaning "woman." Women are sometimes listed as "sons" in Genesis and Exodus if the ruling line is traced through them, which is the case with Ishar (Ex 6), and Anah and Oholibamah (Gen. 36). The last two women are Horites of Edom, of the house of "Seir the Horite."<br /><br />Note that Ex. 6:17 lists Ishar and Amram in the same generation. These were Kohath's children by two different wives. This is characteristic of the marriage and ascendancy pattern of the Horite ruler-priests, that they had two wives. <br /><br />Note that one of the sons of Korah the Younger (Ishar's son) was named Elkanah. This is the name of the prophet Samuel's father who also had two wives. Samuel's family was also Horite. See this: http://biblicalanthropology.blogspot.com/2012/07/samuels-horite-family.html<br /><br />Best wishes to you!Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-13404438325958530532013-06-19T17:58:41.635-07:002013-06-19T17:58:41.635-07:00I am confused about the wife Ishar. I see Izhar li...I am confused about the wife Ishar. I see Izhar listed as a son of Kohath Ex. 6:17 and the parent of Korah. Is she listed and I missing her?the striped rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13971373349800972797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-91774597644095625112013-03-11T09:50:59.462-07:002013-03-11T09:50:59.462-07:00Leviticus 18:12 forbids this arrangement. "Do...Leviticus 18:12 forbids this arrangement. "Do not have sexual relations with your father's sister; she is your father's close relative."<br /><br />It is possible that the Biblical writer supposed that the Levitical code did not apply to Moses' father, as it developed after Moses. However, most of the Levitical laws have precedents among the Horite purity and marriage laws. <br /><br />It would be highly irregular for Amram to marry his father's sister. The Horite marriage and ascendancy pattern was very regulated. Further, this information does not fit all the other data given about Amram.Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-26376712600033037162013-03-10T22:52:23.900-07:002013-03-10T22:52:23.900-07:00I'm enjoying your blog here. As I was reading ...I'm enjoying your blog here. As I was reading through this entry, I noted a reference to Exodus 6:20 in which you state that Moses's father Amram married his sister, Yocheved. I looked at this verse and found that Amram's wife, Yocheved was indeed his FATHER'S sister: <br />"Amram married his father's sister Jochebed, who bore him Aaron and Moses." <br />Was this some sort of oversight? I say this not to start a fight, but just to add to the discourse of your blog here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-82885777468577803132013-01-10T11:26:28.204-08:002013-01-10T11:26:28.204-08:00Thanks, Jay. That's an interesting story. Mose...Thanks, Jay. That's an interesting story. Moses' Ethiopian/Kushite wife was certainly a royal daughter. However, as Zipporah was Moses' cousin bride, the Kushite bride would have been Moses' half-sister, a daughter of Amram. This was the Horite marriage pattern and was a sacred aspect of their life. <br /><br />Perhaps Am-ram (Ruler of the People) was called Tharbis or Harbis? Har-bis is likely a cognate of Anu-bis. Anubis is one of the 4 canopic jar figures that represent Horus, the deity f the Horites.Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-33622904838443482162013-01-10T09:00:16.675-08:002013-01-10T09:00:16.675-08:00Josephus in "Antiquities of the Jews" (B...Josephus in "Antiquities of the Jews" (Book 2, chapter 10) gives us the answer and the background information on Moses's Ethiopian wife (when Moses was a prince of Egypt, before his prophetic call): "However, while Moses was uneasy at the army's lying idle, (for the enemies durst not come to a battle,) this accident happened: - Tharbis was the daughter of the king of the Ethiopians: she happened to see Moses as he led the army near the walls, and fought with great courage; and admiring the subtility of his undertakings, and believing him to be the author of the Egyptians' success, when they had before despaired of recovering their liberty, and to be the occasion of the great danger the Ethiopians were in, when they had before boasted of their great achievements, she fell deeply in love with him; and upon the prevalency of that passion, sent to him the most faithful of all her servants to discourse with him about their marriage. He thereupon accepted the offer, on condition she would procure the delivering up of the city; and gave her the assurance of an oath to take her to his wife; and that when he had once taken possession of the city, he would not break his oath to her. No sooner was the agreement made, but it took effect immediately; and when Moses had cut off the Ethiopians, he gave thanks to God, and consummated his marriage, and led the Egyptians back to their own land."Jay Mackleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08026681569372577371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-20595869007207509492011-11-05T12:57:13.218-07:002011-11-05T12:57:13.218-07:00Amram's marriage pattern to two wives indicate...Amram's marriage pattern to two wives indicates that he was a Horite ruler. The Horites were a caste of ruler-priests who were well respected by the Egyptians. These devotees of HR (Hor/Horus) were often raised in and around the royal palaces.<br /><br />Moses name means "drawn-out" and suggests that he was not raised to be Amram's successor. He was likely raised to be a warrior who drew out his sword. This would explain the swiftness with which he killed a man and his success in defending Jethro's daughters at the well against a gang of attackers.<br /><br />Moses himself did not regard himself to be "powerful in speech" and that is why he pleaded with GOD to allow Aaron to speak for him.Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.com