tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post8973018918937531449..comments2024-03-24T11:03:03.106-07:00Comments on Just Genesis : Connecting Magog, Gog and OgAlice C. Linsleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-55429173646441000402015-10-09T13:28:37.893-07:002015-10-09T13:28:37.893-07:00Diana,
These clans were Horites. They spread the ...Diana,<br /><br />These clans were Horites. They spread the Horite religion. Horus, the son of the Creator Ra, whose emblem was the sun. Alos associated with the ram or bull and lion.<br />The only European bull deity which is celebrated in the middle of the Leo sign is Crom Dubh, Hromi Daba, Grom Div, Dabog, Dagda, the giving god. The bull headed deity is often shown in between two lion's heads, as with the Egyptian Aker. <br /><br />The solar imagery is evident in the Krkavški Kamen (Krkava stone) also known as Triglav stone from Istria. Triglav is Hromi Daba, Crom Dubh, Grom Div and on this stone it is obvious that Triglav is Hromi Daba, Crom Dubh, Grom Div were seen as a Solar deity. <br /><br />In the region of Palestine, the clans of Og, Magog and Gog appear to be related to the clans of Uz, Buz and Huz. Job, a contemporary of Abraham was of the clan of Uz.<br /><br />See these for more: <br /><br />http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-re-horus-hathor-narrative.html<br /><br />http://biblicalanthropology.blogspot.com/2015/09/the-giving-god.html<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-47216566780704067512015-10-09T13:17:49.080-07:002015-10-09T13:17:49.080-07:00Bible George,
The Scythians were called Saka. The...Bible George,<br /><br />The Scythians were called Saka. The Saka are grouped into Eastern Scythians and Western Sycthians. The Western Sycthians were followed by the Sarmatians, then the Alans, and finally the Ossetes, but they share a common patrimony. They are related to the Yuezhi of Bactria and China. Both the Saka and the Yuezhi are ethnically Kushite.<br /><br />The Matsya Purana claims that the world belonged to Kushite Saka for 7000 years. In the Mahabharata, the Sakadvipa is the 'land of the Sakas' whose ancestors were Proto-Saharans.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-40946253821103371922015-10-06T10:26:00.098-07:002015-10-06T10:26:00.098-07:00I am primarily interested in researching Og. What ...I am primarily interested in researching Og. What more do you have on him. What were his cultural and religeous beliefs..what Godor demi God did he serve?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12845680977786239707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-21364999976449883942014-02-11T09:46:59.877-08:002014-02-11T09:46:59.877-08:00So where is Gog located? I know that Josephus conn...So where is Gog located? I know that Josephus connected Magog to the Schythians but how did he do this? The names don't appear to be similar. Do you have any info on the Schythians?BibleGeorgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08889577134118181997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-48771316009266548392010-11-30T14:08:11.527-08:002010-11-30T14:08:11.527-08:00No. Islam began with Mohammed who lived thousands ...No. Islam began with Mohammed who lived thousands of years after Ishmael. Ishmael and his descendants were Egyptians. The people of Arabia (Arabs) are mostly descendants of Abraham by his first-born son Joktan. They are called the Joktanite Tribes and still live in Arabia. They are kin to the peoples of Dedan, Sheba and Ramaah.Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-62887282167164284702010-08-08T06:10:36.152-07:002010-08-08T06:10:36.152-07:00Tom, It has been years since I read The Late Great...Tom, It has been years since I read The Late Great Planet Earth, so I can't confirm these discrepancies. I'll take your word on them. Your comment about repopulating mortals and heathen rebels sounds like a virtual science fiction war game.<br /><br />It seems to me is that Lindsay and many other Protestants know the commentaries on the Bible better than they know the Bible. Sections of those commentaries draw from the Talmud which is anti-Christ. It says that Messiah is Yeshu, the son of Joseph, but it contradicts itself in Sanhedrin 43a were it says that Jesus (Yeshu) the Nazarene was executed because he practiced sorcery. Sanhedrin 106a says Jesus' mother was a whore: “She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters.” <br /><br />The Talmud encourages readers to elevate it above the authority of the Old Testament. “My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah." (Talmud Erubin 21b)<br /><br />This elevation of the Talmud over the Hebrew Bible began after the destruction of Jerusalem, which is when the Talmud was compiled. The present form of the Talmud dates to about AD 500. By this time the rabbis had hardened their hearts against the followers of Jesus Messiah.<br /><br />Most Jews are instructed by Rabbis who teach from the Talmud more than they teach from the Old Testament, so they don’t know what their own Bible says. They are clueless as to who Jesus is because they do not search the Bible to learn of Him. Sadly, many Christian clergy reference the Talmud in preparing their sermons and treat rabbinical teaching as authoritative for the Church. Many of the commentaries used by Protestants are infected with Talmudic teaching.<br /><br />How does this affect people like Lindsay? The rabbis obfuscate the pattern concerning the Son of God found throughout the Hebrew Bible. When you take Jesus Messiah out of the Bible, you are left with confusing images and you no longer have the Pattern by which to properly intrepret the Scriptures. That Pattern is already established in Genesis but largely ignored by Protestants because they tend to think that the New Testament overthrows the Old Testament. That's the thinking to leads to books like The Late Great Planet.Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-63872303620950266862010-08-07T21:49:46.739-07:002010-08-07T21:49:46.739-07:00Hal Lindsey's Pretrib Rapture "Proof"...Hal Lindsey's Pretrib Rapture "Proof"<br /><br /> Is Hal Lindsey's proof for a pretrib rapture "100 proof" - that is, 100 percent Biblical?<br /> In "The Late Great Planet Earth" (p. 143) Lindsey gives his "chief reason" for pretrib: "If the Rapture took place at the same time as the second coming, there would be no mortals left who would be believers" - that is, no believers still alive who could enter the millennium and repopulate the earth.<br /> We don't know if Lindsey's amnesia is voluntary or involuntary, or if he need amnesia rehab, but earlier (p. 54), while focusing on chapters 12 through 14 of Zechariah, Lindsey sees "a remnant of Jews in Jerusalem" who are mortals who will become believing mortals at the second coming and then become repopulating mortals!<br /> During the same discussion of Zech. 12-14 Lindsey overlooks some of the final verses in Zech. 14. They reveal that some of the tribulation survivors "of all the nations which came against Jerusalem" will refuse to go there "to worship the King, the Lord of hosts." Here's what will happen to those "heathen" rebels: "upon them shall be no rain."<br /> So the facts about the repopulating mortals, in unbelieving as well as believing ranks, cancel out Lindsey's "chief reason" for opposing a joint rapture/second coming - the ONLY rapture view to be found in official theology books and organized churches prior to 1830!<br /> (See historian Dave MacPherson's "The Rapture Plot," the most accurate and most highly endorsed book on pretrib rapture history - available at online stores like Armageddon Books etc. Also Google "Scholars Weigh My Research" and "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty.")<br /> Although Hal Lindsey claims that his "Late Great" didn't set a date for Christ's return, many of his followers - including copycats Bill Maupin ("1981") and Edgar Whisenant ("1988") - did view Lindsey as a date-setter, and his later book "The 1980s: Countdown to Armageddon" (the sort of title that date-setters and their ga-ga groupies love) became another fizzle - unless we're still living in the 1980s!<br /> In Old Testament days false prophets were stoned to death. Now they're just stoned!<br /><br />(Web bit above recently seen. Tom)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-12318934233637879232010-06-06T23:13:14.404-07:002010-06-06T23:13:14.404-07:00Hi, Dana. I'm familiar with the work of the So...Hi, Dana. I'm familiar with the work of the Soviet comparative linguists. However, I do not agree with the conclusion that ancestral Altaic gave rise to Afro-Asiatic languages. The evidence suggests the opposite as Afro-Asiatic rulers moved east and north along mountain chains and major river systems. The Altaic-Uralic languages are varied, but some of them are clearly related to the older Afro-Asiatic, as is the case with Hungarian.<br /><br />Thanks for the link, which readers will find interesting.Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-42025064798938126452010-06-06T19:07:58.522-07:002010-06-06T19:07:58.522-07:00Alice,
years ago I clipped this article from the n...Alice,<br />years ago I clipped this article from the newspaper, and have found it on the 'net. I thought it was interesting, as someone who has studied language (my BA is in German, and I'm a medical transcriptionist, so use lots of Latin & Greek "parts" daily). I'm not sure what to make of the construction of "Proto-World"; it sounds an awful lot like "Q"... But these lines of thought among linguists are intriguing to me.<br /><br />http://faculty.ed.umuc.edu/~jmatthew/articles/mothertongue.html<br /><br />Dana AmesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-52451483737331403852010-01-06T18:03:37.320-08:002010-01-06T18:03:37.320-08:00Thanks for the link, James. I'll check it out ...Thanks for the link, James. I'll check it out and maybe post a link at Just Genesis.Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-91761188629154481472010-01-06T16:14:33.762-08:002010-01-06T16:14:33.762-08:00Hi, just read 'Just Genesis', which I stum...Hi, just read 'Just Genesis', which I stumbled onto accidently, and loved it! Can't wait to make my way through you other entries but in the mean time please check out this interesting acticle about a relic text regarding Noah http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/01/noahs-ark-was-circular<br />Thanks,<br /><br />JamesJames Daltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02239444482425065916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-2648495967103543702009-03-22T15:01:00.000-07:002009-03-22T15:01:00.000-07:00Alice, I had planned to read the two, then come ba...Alice, I had planned to read the two, then come back with something encouraging or positive to say - but have only begun to study one of them. You are sharing very intuitive info here(dense whole wheat bread vs. airy white bread).<BR/><BR/><I>Thank you</I> for the links, and for being generous with valuable knowledge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-17997974912497492742009-03-22T06:14:00.000-07:002009-03-22T06:14:00.000-07:00Thanks, Nik. I appreciate your comment. The Gospel...Thanks, Nik. I appreciate your comment. The Gospel is true beyond our ability to imagine! Our sensationalism only cheapens it.<BR/><BR/>The three sons theme in Genesis is very significant. Three sons represent a tribal unity, just as the three Persons of the Trinity are one. One son is usually veiled, suggested, or even pronounced dead, as in the cases of Abel and Harran. I'm convinced that this theme is Christological. Jesus Christ is the Son "hidden" in the Father's bosom who in these last days has been revealed.<BR/><BR/>If you wish to pursue this, there are related essays at Just Genesis. One is here: http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2008/05/biblical-theme-of-two-sons.html<BR/><BR/>Another is here: http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2008/05/theme-of-hidden-sons.html<BR/><BR/>Thanks for visiting!Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-72283643787118627222009-03-21T18:10:00.000-07:002009-03-21T18:10:00.000-07:00During the 80s, had read some Hal Lindsey books. C...During the 80s, had read some Hal Lindsey books. Carried along on a wave <I>sensationalism</I>, was fascinated by descriptions of earth-shaking end time events. But did come away with a hunger for the word of God that led to hours and hours of nightly Bible study. While, in part, appreciative for the enthusiasm that spurred me on, am also wary of sensationalistic writings that can cause the imagination to spin off in various directions - away from the message of life found at the core of Christian belief. <BR/><BR/>The ancestral triplets that you revealed were very interesting; enjoyed your article. Was left with plenty to pique interest - without the caffeine of sensationalism. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-54821289293560568172007-05-25T11:54:00.000-07:002007-05-25T11:54:00.000-07:00I look forward to more information on this, refere...I look forward to more information on this, references to consult, and future articles by you! It is a pleasure to come across a scholar who takes the Biblical accounts of Genesis seriously *and* thoughtfully.Seraphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06216177538549223181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-17314968316838387402007-05-25T02:09:00.000-07:002007-05-25T02:09:00.000-07:00Greetings, Seraph! I will post more information ab...Greetings, Seraph! I will post more information about Noah and flood soon. <BR/><BR/>Linguists have identified 17 distinct language families on earth. The Afro-Asiatic language family is one of them. The languages within these groups have cognate features, that is, they are linguistically related. However, the language families are not related. This means that the languages of the world can not be traced to a common linguistic origin. In other words, the evidence of linguistics doesn't support either an evolutionary view of human origins nor the view that all humans are descended from one original set of parents. <BR/><BR/>All the peoples and groups mentioned in the Genesis Prehistory pertain to the Afro-Asiatic language group. The information here speaks of an ancient Afro-Asiatic civilization of inter-related rulers which extended from West Central Africa to the Indus River Valley. Noah was one of these rulers. <BR/><BR/>The 2 creation stories and the 2 flood stories represent the eastern and western "versions" of the same Afro-Asiatic tradition. According to the eastern account, a great flood took place in the Tigris and Euphrates region. Floods happened here quite often. According to the western (more hidden) account, Noah lived near Lake Chad, an area which also flooded often in 12-15 thousand years ago. What we might call the "Babylonian version" speaks of a vast regional flooding, and the African account, consistent with the geneologial data of Genesis, places the biblical Noah among Abraham's ancestors who are in or of Africa.<BR/><BR/>School ends today, giving me more time to dedicate to this blog, so please visit again. May you enjoy blessings in Christ this day.Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688820610845171516.post-69944703398945550592007-05-21T19:55:00.000-07:002007-05-21T19:55:00.000-07:00Fascinating material, Dr. Linsley! When you say A...Fascinating material, Dr. Linsley! When you say Afro-Asiatic linguistic group, what does that imply to an armchair historian like myself? From what part of Africa or Asia do you see these peoples in early Genesis descending?<BR/><BR/>And what are your reasons for thinking that Noah's offspring are not seeded over the earth...how do you see Noah's flood, a large local flood or more widespread, or worldwide in scope?Seraphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06216177538549223181noreply@blogger.com